You know D  
I tried to come up with a more 'relevant' term for photographing than 'shoot'
Even looked up how 'shoot/shot' came to be - murky  
It seems the gatling gun's the culprit
Perhaps that's why I don't do people much 
Happy to be a  'hunter-gatherer-tweaker'
Os  Bill
Bill Dane
Flickr exchange which included his mini-fun analytic of Winogrand:
my response:
Thanks again John.
Don't overthink what Garry thought - he didn't.
Come to think - just carry-on as The J.W. !
Os, Bill.
Bill Dane
Jan  Thank You!  (for helping click on me links = crawlers)
I assume it all matters (life)  but  not sure I could talk about it   
I'd love ta try a grande-sensor D-camera  with  oh  a 25-150 macro
when do the cows come home?  
Os  li'lbilly   wit low-tech-emoters
Bill Dane
I just can't assume it's a bother for You
For me it's a play-work-fun connect
Thank You   Os  Bill
Bill Dane
We Are At The Ceiling Tonite!!!!!
Esther Dulberg Dane &! her 2 study-Boos passed 
the National Medical Assistant Exam!!!!!!
*****
Esther finished her first & amazing Extern week in 
The Clinic at San Francisco General - on the floor: vitals, blood-draws, records, exam-assists, translating for Spanish speakers, 
making hella friends & staff connects & getting PROPS  
Very Pro Environment
great stories for us 1 2 3 4 5 ad ad ad ad FUN!
OsXs Ess  Mama n Dad !
Bill Dane
Thank YOU! Flickr complimentary Guy Peter
Finally figured this way to make my gallery for others' pictures 
easy to manage as my Favorites page
It's been sitting on my face for 2 years
Hope it works
I took all the pictures from my old inaccessible gallery and
could still import them 1 by 1 - fast
Stay Well  Bill
Bill Dane
Dan Skjaeveland
pronounced Don
Magnetized by my pictures   and others'
May 2015  he actually shows up at our door
4 days we set up at the table  do some talk   29-39 hours
November  he's back with wonderful Valentina for days-nights
Our Pleasure!
We set up at the table   more talk
Of course  I got puky hearing me-self   never tired with Dan
Fine Fine: head  heart  soul  energy  Guy
He goes home to Norway and Paris:
Hours   Freaky   Work    Edits  . . .
His Gift: The Interview
OsXs  
Bill Dane
A facebook post I just happened to find today:
Douglas Nickel said in an interview in PhotoWings in 2007, I believe around the time of former MoMA picture chief John Szarkowski's death, "[...] Bill Dane is not a name that a lot of people will pull out of their hat when describing the most important photographers working today - for reasons that can never be fully explained. He was exhibited at the Museum of Modern Art. This mechanism was thrown behind him, but John [Szarkowski] is probably right in this regard, the world was not ready for Bill Dane, so it didn't happen."
I think it remains true that the world isn't ready. Biased as I am, when I look at his work I see the most interesting photography I've ever seen, taken as an entire body of work. I've always been a fan of Arbus and the whole hipster cohort of borderline personality photographers from the renaissance (that I assume it was) of camera-ing during mid+ last century. But I get bored really fast. Pictures usually look like trash to me, literally, something that belongs on the sidewalk, melting into the concrete, blowing around in the shitty city breeze. Bill Dane somehow found a fucking way to make the trash beautiful (in my mind).
Look him up. In particular read what John FitzGibbon wrote about him if you happen upon Bill's critics page on his website. Or hell, read what almost anyone wrote.
"If, as I am comfortable in prognosticating, historians look back on the last 35 years of our millennium as an unparalleled time of gross self-congratulatory corniness of taste, national bombast, and hapless credulity, Bill Dane will be singled out as a chief recorder. Not the least charm of his procedure is that Bill does it all with a completely straight face."
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What?! I should self-diss? Here? In public? Oh dears, no.
Nick, you have always been One Top Perceiver-Digester.
Why would you stumble today!?
Sun OsXs Bill your devoted dad-in-law & love
+:
Thank YOU Monet Os Dad
Bill Dane
Esther Dulberg Dane. The Esther!
A partir de una familia que empatiza - su química personal maravilloso - clases en U. Mass y Hampshire - las maravillas de Matigalpa - ¡¡¡Amigos & Pros - mucho mucho mucho estudio y moler moler moler y loving ...
Y ahora a S.F. General Hospital - Externship.
¡Va a ser una Enfermera Especial!
¡Oh Esther ... GUARDAR EN CAMIONAJE_N'...
Xs Os mama papa +++++++++++
Bill Dane
Thank You for yesterday's visit  Frank.
A pleasure to be there.
We were also alone-together from 1940 to 1949.
A detached duo at the house - engaged if Edie drove us to Ojai, poor mother.
Nancy came in '49 - more action - more flyin'-around distance.
I started going away: camps - jr hi - jobs - Midland - jobs - army - Berkeley ...
We always went away - not sadly - not angrily - just 'naturally'.
We've always gone off to ourselves and others.
I sat across from you for good hours yesterday  Frank.
So many spaces ...
Os  Bill.
Bill Dane
BREAK! 
Lost this my Flickr pictures and my Flickr gallery.
Hmmmnnn ... 
I'll just KEEP ON POSTIN'... new pictures - right here at facebook.
That was easy ... might never fix my Flickr ... ! 
Os  Bill.
Bill Dane
Cautionary post for all planning to avoid colon cancer with no pain.
Gassy Bill wears colon on sleeve:
Had a wonderful colonoscopy this afternoon at UCSF.
RNs rule and care with pleasure    Lucky me fa-sho!
Decided on no anesthesia/meds  so hip-bone-on-bone Nancy 
Could leave me to public transportation.  
4 weeks until her new hip arrives!
​And!  I could do the full Doc Terdiman's Perfect huge-screen 
Guide​d tour to my secum n back.
​A few snips here n there  and constant chatter​ ... Very crampy fun.
​Can't go back for 5 years​.
​+: MAS IMPORTANTE!  Esther takes the Natl Medical Assistant Exam​ tomorrow Fri.  
Os  mom n dad +
Bill Dane
Emailing with Dan in Norway:
Dan, What's happening? Re: Bill, What happened?
(Dan, wondering about my old ideas re: book projects w/Steidl et al ... +++)
Here you come  Dan.   Obviously too near The Pole.    
🗣tired old-me-shit  hacks into your day-dreams...  ¡Spell-Check Dan!
You are good Dan.   You have a memory+++.    Many-Pieces now irrelevant.   
We will become real-world Guys now.
Fuck the folk who showed backs .  Even my In The Beginning did not appeal.  
They have their myopic-reasonings  & Their $$$.
I think we'll get what we need Mick, thanks.
I have 2016 spell-checking my heart-head-gut, Dan.
​You and I will adventure for the misplaced...    
​Naturally i dont have me 29 year gamle energiene. Viking Dan seeks-on . . .
Utforske for deg selv, og du vil utforske med og for meg.
(+- Explore for yourself, and you will explore with and for me.)
Jippi Oss!
​Bill​.
​+:  Don't pooh pooh the Gru​ ... could mean,  give this roving Brit a read.     
​Dan. Please. Cross your heart-gut-head and promise you'll read  
Nigel Merrick's  Summary   scroll-down ... for Oss.
"BLM" "SURJ"
99%     =      =  
flickr     website 
Bill Dane
Emailing with Dan in Norway:
I read you Dan  Thanks
Gut says  "research sites that Sell online"   at least to exhaust our pipedream.
There may be sites that make sense to You.
Instagram seems like daily-boppers  not guys wit 99$.  What da i kno?
I believe You should try the contemporary places.  You are contemporary.
Follow the peeps wer they go Dan. You're a devil of a man ... 
I think Instagram is a place.
I don't have one either Bill.
Everyone (meaning 3+ people) tells me I need one. 
A place for people to quickly follow, look, comment  and fave. 
We're not following the people where they go.
Follow the peeps wer they go Dan. You're a devil of a man.  Burning sand +
Flickr is probably better for 'real'(?) connections!  Groups and stuff.
Yes Dan!​  Go Contemp!  Go Comrades!  
I'd like ta go full-frame  Hasselblad  NikonD?   some EOS.  
I need me something that'll micro  Hassel do that?
Better focus on college loan payments!
​¡ ! Go fun n games​  fer sanity  and a life worth sharing.
​Bill here    You there​    Covering the comrade world ...
"BLM" "SURJ"
99%     =      =  
flickr     website 
Bill Dane
What is a friend?
1.
a person whom one knows and with whom one has a bond of mutual affection, typically exclusive of sexual or family relations.
synonyms:companion, soulmate, intimate, confidante, confidant, familiar, alterego,
secondself, playmate, playfellow, classmate, schoolmate,workmate
More:   like trustable-trustworthy      I'm challenged
Bill Dane
gallery  + flickr  + website    Yours
Nobody but cool friendly freaks
Nobody looks at our stuff for more than a few seconds . . .  just this long   Gone
TRUCKIN'... Adventure Pain Fun  no matter what!   
Os  Bill
Bill Dane

Dear People.
Perspective:
Of course all lives matter, which is sadly, historically, irrelevant because
BLACK LIVES DO NOT MATTER IN OUR WORLD.
Ergo "BLACK LIVES MATTER" because they haven't and they don't.
Tragically, sadly, practically, street-wise - only white lives matter - so far.
Effective clue: I am not profiled + + + + +
Myths-Structures of class - white 'race' superiority - economics have plagued the world for centuries.
THE DEHUMANIZATION OF THE OTHER.
Nasty murderous shit flows-on...
Intentionally or Not and promulgated by media-individuals-groups-church-state-tech-capitalism-art-'history' + + +
And by the beside-the-point: ALL LIVES MATTER.
THEY DON'T.
ALL LIVES MATTER lacks perspective-confuses folks-Disrespects The Black Experience +++ and rationalizes more evil acts.
Effective clue:
Can you stand in front of any black person and tell her that all lives matter.
When all lives are actually equal - perhaps all lives will actually matter.
Os, Bill
"BLACK LIVES MATTER"
blacklivesmatter.com/herstory/
"SURJ"
www.showingupforracialjustice.org/
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Debts - ancient through to contemporary Debts.
From the horrific plague of
world-euro-usa class-'race' econ-white-supremacy+...
Debts - Always Paid By Some Of Us - The 99%.
Everyday. Everywhere.
Sewings. Reapings.
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For most people on our planet living day to day, on very little to nothing - This is reality.
I was born in 1938, to white privilege, in California, on the very edge of reality.
Luckily for me my mother evolved = humanist commonist socialist egalitarian.
Black Lives Mattered in our house.
Money was only a means to do good, we had enough.
But did-we, could-we, can-we really comprehend our privilege and entitlement.
Today classist-racist-global-neoliberal-capitalism is forcing realities on most of us.
Will we evolve.

Bill Dane