Re: this Flickr Group I started:
Remember POI,
I had to be righteously schooled to reluctantly accept my dictaterhood.
There was mindful concern re a chaotic, commonist dumping ground.
Thus: Dictator For Fellow Toilers - another pollution of The Marx. oh dear Thank you POI, Edgy - Poignant - Appreciated ! & I Thought - I Wrote . . . to 'fill a polite purpose'. Bill billdane.com says: Hello _ _ _ _There will be unhappy moments - even in our gardens. There are x possible ways to deal with this flickr life. You already know about, and mention, the fickle nature of 'art' (and science) choices. Your personal choices are your own best mentoring. How I've gone about making pictures since 1963 is very simple and very nuanced. I do 'art' every day in different ways. Living a Personal Engaged Psych and Social life. Edgy Poignant Alienated Disturbed Sad Hilarious +. A history of adventures in expression - from crib-screaming to making pictures. In the beginning I looked all over places for Picture signals - the Politics and Musics of our passages - I stayed alive. I taught an encompassing demographic - a range of USA-'victim' teenagers for 33 years. Very soon this-my-history took over and I've been on a form of picture-art-auto-pilot. My daily choices - decisions - are within the boundaries of stuff I do not much control. Ie: It is only possible for me to takes pictures of 'certain' stuff - stuff that grabs me - then I find out if it makes a Picture - with the caveat of all the fickle ingredients we all experience - minute to minute in this life. So! Mind me or don't. (You don't even have a fucking name yet.) ((I don't even know how I'll Lenin-Marx this group.)) We're all hyped n fucked again & who cares - it's our teeny raucous riot of planetary inconsequential doo doo. I spent my whole life prepping for mentorshipping. You'll find 'it' packaged and messy at: billdane.com |
Getting questions (and answers!) about my Flickr Group and the Website.
I'll post some, fun for me, stuff that could help my kids after I croak.
answer:
Nick, Major Powers, and I have been evolving the site since '07.
We we we have rollicking fun and do some self-serious shit.
I had +- 1500 pictures in older versions of the site.
Overwhelming and Underedited !
The 3 eras have logics.
The eras are functional divisions - for viewers.
I edited for 2 months 'weeding' my garden = very satisfying.
We found the logical breaks and put +-100 pictures in each.
We created 'Right Now' = Flickr - for recent pictures.
These are rough edited pictures - not digested over time - yet !
? Do I prefer an era (no) or pictures = I selected each picture from thousands since '69.
Jan-Feb - 2 months of re-editing = I prefer them all.
But ! I don't look back (except to website).
So ! Could say I prefer the pictures in reverse chronological order.
What I'm up to Right Now is all it's about.
I'll post some, fun for me, stuff that could help my kids after I croak.
answer:
Nick, Major Powers, and I have been evolving the site since '07.
We we we have rollicking fun and do some self-serious shit.
I had +- 1500 pictures in older versions of the site.
Overwhelming and Underedited !
The 3 eras have logics.
The eras are functional divisions - for viewers.
I edited for 2 months 'weeding' my garden = very satisfying.
We found the logical breaks and put +-100 pictures in each.
We created 'Right Now' = Flickr - for recent pictures.
These are rough edited pictures - not digested over time - yet !
? Do I prefer an era (no) or pictures = I selected each picture from thousands since '69.
Jan-Feb - 2 months of re-editing = I prefer them all.
But ! I don't look back (except to website).
So ! Could say I prefer the pictures in reverse chronological order.
What I'm up to Right Now is all it's about.
Damn I wish I read stuff.
Thanks Marc - I could start any day now.
Re: 'my' flickr group.
Response to a possible participant:
Response to a possible participant:
I started this group for fun - curiosity.
I was helped to understand my open-to-all-commonism leads to dumping-ground.
End of the adventure - so! - went with Edgy Poignant Pictures Please.
Which leads to unholy shit = I have to reject stuff - draw lines.
End up with only my own pictures ?!
Then I start dinging my pictures - until what ?
Some kinda masterbatory editing mission accomplished ?!
oh dear.
I was helped to understand my open-to-all-commonism leads to dumping-ground.
End of the adventure - so! - went with Edgy Poignant Pictures Please.
Which leads to unholy shit = I have to reject stuff - draw lines.
End up with only my own pictures ?!
Then I start dinging my pictures - until what ?
Some kinda masterbatory editing mission accomplished ?!
oh dear.
This flickr adventure has been supported fun after only 3 days of reach-outs.
Sharing-wise = way better than limited picturepostcard mailings.
One Brooklyn fellow hopes we're within one-big-serendipitous-article of virality.
Oh dear folks! but Thank you.
Oh dear folks! but Thank you.
Yes - I put up my pictures of women w/o clothes to test viewers.
How do folks find them ?!
No clue - yet.
I got 1500 views on each of those.
Usually 200-500 a picture on my Flickr.
How do folks find them ?!
No clue - yet.
I got 1500 views on each of those.
Usually 200-500 a picture on my Flickr.
flickr commonist notes
Oh dear.
(I have even lost myself !)
Looking for order and clarity.?
But reality requires a poetic mix of ingredients in our lab-work, art-adventures, and in writing notes to cabbages.
This is fun, but perhaps not worth your lab time.
We will fade away very soon.
So, IT IS ALL FUN CODE, CABBAGE.
My funky translation is in the capital letters.
Cabbage wrote and I tried to clarify:
Fighting the urge to exclaim "was that code?" with a puzzled face (and assuming it wasn't), I think I must point out that although I manage quite well with high-horsed literary English, I really don't understand slang or dialect that well (especially not of the Northern American variety), so if any of the words listed below were of vital importance to understanding your last mail, please feel free to supply me with translations into, well, English that a foreigner with a basic understanding in English would understand. Again, no disrespect intended at all, but in between "at your whim" = WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE IT, and "marijuana" I kind of lost you in translation (although I'm not sure why the pot popped up, I'm glad to assume you're not a fan - neither am I). And no, Google translate didn't improve things (although it did add some humurous twists, such as you being a "stabber" = HUGGER = ONE WHO HUGS PEOPLE, and rinsing laundry while 18 = SOAKING UP EXPERIENCES LIKE A SPONGE)...
"wonder stuff" - would that be imaginary ideas?
AMAZING-ENTERTAINING SHIT TALK,
"no hustle" = DO NOT PROMOTE MYSELF FOR MONEY - would that imply that you don't engage in fraud, or that you don't like to move around? I MOVE A LOT, C.
"$non-starter" = I HAVE NEVER REALLY MADE MONEY, AND CERTAINLY NOT A LIVING, FROM THE SALE OF MY PICTURES - I assume it has to do with money, and that money is not a great motivating force to you, would that be correct?
"unholy shit" = YOU ARE REALLY ON MY CASE CABBAGE, YOU ARE IN ATTACK MODE, TRASH-TALKING - is that good or bad? and would it be better or worse than "holy" shit? SAID WHILE GRINNING, WITH TONGUE IN CHEEK.
"army weekends" = I SPENT A YEAR STUDYING RUSSIAN IN THE ARMY IM MONTEREY CA, AND WENT TO S.F. = SAN FRANCISCO, ON WEEKENDS TO GO WHERE THE 'BEATS' WERE, ETC- no idea
"S.F." = SAN FRANCISCO - I'm stumped. Science Fiction? Swedish Film? Sinn Fein? Security Forces?
"A.G." = ALLEN GINSBERG, WROTE "HOWL" I assume it's a person, but I can't for my life recall enough modern US history to figure out who it might be (or why he/she would howl, for that matter)
"soaking" = EXPERIENCING - I can only suspect that it has nothing to do with actually being placed in a waterbath"
Anyway, time for some tea and then pick up the kiddies = MOSES & ESTHER ARE BOTH 23 + MONET IS 39,THIS IS HER HUSBAND NICK, http://lofisymphony.com/, AND WE DESIGN MY WEBSITE TOGETHER. I STILL PICK THEM UP SOMETIMES!
Hope you're having a pleasant day.
Swede = RUTABAGA / TURNIP (vegetable pun intended)
YOU WILL ALWAYS BE "CABBAGE" TO ME.
Os = HUGS, Bill
Oh dear.
(I have even lost myself !)
Looking for order and clarity.?
But reality requires a poetic mix of ingredients in our lab-work, art-adventures, and in writing notes to cabbages.
This is fun, but perhaps not worth your lab time.
We will fade away very soon.
So, IT IS ALL FUN CODE, CABBAGE.
My funky translation is in the capital letters.
Cabbage wrote and I tried to clarify:
Fighting the urge to exclaim "was that code?" with a puzzled face (and assuming it wasn't), I think I must point out that although I manage quite well with high-horsed literary English, I really don't understand slang or dialect that well (especially not of the Northern American variety), so if any of the words listed below were of vital importance to understanding your last mail, please feel free to supply me with translations into, well, English that a foreigner with a basic understanding in English would understand. Again, no disrespect intended at all, but in between "at your whim" = WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE IT, and "marijuana" I kind of lost you in translation (although I'm not sure why the pot popped up, I'm glad to assume you're not a fan - neither am I). And no, Google translate didn't improve things (although it did add some humurous twists, such as you being a "stabber" = HUGGER = ONE WHO HUGS PEOPLE, and rinsing laundry while 18 = SOAKING UP EXPERIENCES LIKE A SPONGE)...
"wonder stuff" - would that be imaginary ideas?
AMAZING-ENTERTAINING SHIT TALK,
"no hustle" = DO NOT PROMOTE MYSELF FOR MONEY - would that imply that you don't engage in fraud, or that you don't like to move around? I MOVE A LOT, C.
"$non-starter" = I HAVE NEVER REALLY MADE MONEY, AND CERTAINLY NOT A LIVING, FROM THE SALE OF MY PICTURES - I assume it has to do with money, and that money is not a great motivating force to you, would that be correct?
"unholy shit" = YOU ARE REALLY ON MY CASE CABBAGE, YOU ARE IN ATTACK MODE, TRASH-TALKING - is that good or bad? and would it be better or worse than "holy" shit? SAID WHILE GRINNING, WITH TONGUE IN CHEEK.
"army weekends" = I SPENT A YEAR STUDYING RUSSIAN IN THE ARMY IM MONTEREY CA, AND WENT TO S.F. = SAN FRANCISCO, ON WEEKENDS TO GO WHERE THE 'BEATS' WERE, ETC- no idea
"S.F." = SAN FRANCISCO - I'm stumped. Science Fiction? Swedish Film? Sinn Fein? Security Forces?
"A.G." = ALLEN GINSBERG, WROTE "HOWL" I assume it's a person, but I can't for my life recall enough modern US history to figure out who it might be (or why he/she would howl, for that matter)
"soaking" = EXPERIENCING - I can only suspect that it has nothing to do with actually being placed in a waterbath"
Anyway, time for some tea and then pick up the kiddies = MOSES & ESTHER ARE BOTH 23 + MONET IS 39,THIS IS HER HUSBAND NICK, http://lofisymphony.com/, AND WE DESIGN MY WEBSITE TOGETHER. I STILL PICK THEM UP SOMETIMES!
Hope you're having a pleasant day.
Swede = RUTABAGA / TURNIP (vegetable pun intended)
YOU WILL ALWAYS BE "CABBAGE" TO ME.
Os = HUGS, Bill
Thank you D. for your Flickr Group propping +.
Fine Mother's Days Years for you.
Heard that Szarkowski thought long ago that I'd gone 'too literal'.
Fine Mother's Days Years for you.
Heard that Szarkowski thought long ago that I'd gone 'too literal'.
I must expand and short-circuit my 'literal' - rather than whatever a vice-versa might be:
the old me? Garry Lee . . .
Some kinda 'literal' winds up everywhere - after all.
the old me? Garry Lee . . .
Some kinda 'literal' winds up everywhere - after all.
My head offers itself no choices - very strict - hunt and gather and edit my way:
see - struck - click - edit.
see - struck - click - edit.
There is room for and there certainly are plenty of different 'style' picture folks.
There may be an excuse here for this indulgence ---> John Szarkowski
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There may be an excuse here for this indulgence ---> John Szarkowski
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You are screwing up my story M.
'Conceptual - mail art', hmmmnn, an issue for J.S. - doesn't figure ... 'literal' fits perfect.
My first photo-pictures were informed by pop - process & environment art - finding existing subjects.
Rather than spending millions wrapping shit - digging big holes - buying $$$studio materials ...
Defrocking the masterpiece ... then seeing Ruscha parking lots-gas stations - then Frank + ...
What about that could have bothered J.S.?
I'd started mailing in '69 - met him in '71 and started mailing him the pictures from the '73 show +++
I will assume you gotta be right M. but 'conceptual-mail art' never registered = 'literal' forever.
It's all stories . . . this one's fun fragmented.
Edith Thacher Dane '13 - '02
Thank you.
Lucky Us.
Thank You Nancy !
! Do I know some Wonderful Mothers !
I heard him with Amy Goodman this AM
Science and research based theory very provocative good
"Jewish Voice for Peace" making sense.
Anti-semitic? I don't think so.
We guided Esther and Moses thru 10 years of Jewish 'education' and Bar and Bat Mitzvahs
In a Synagogue that supports Justice for both Palestine and Israel.
Anti-semitic? I don't think so.
We guided Esther and Moses thru 10 years of Jewish 'education' and Bar and Bat Mitzvahs
In a Synagogue that supports Justice for both Palestine and Israel.
I hunt the streets for striking pieces of our human adventure.
Photographing to see if my finds will make poignant pictures.
Photographing to see if my finds will make poignant pictures.
Yes, I live here on the edge of realities - going on no matter:
Khalidi: It's Time for Palestinians `to get off their knees' and Turn to Europe and the ICC.
Rashid Khalidi is an American historian of the Middle East, the Edward Said Professor of Modern Arab Studies at Columbia University, and director of the Middle East Institute of Columbia's School of International and Public Affairs. He is a former adviser to the PLO.